Football strong, but Clemson's overall athletic program lags ACC, SEC competition

Tigers place 60th nationally in Learfield Directors' Cup, 10th in the ACC, 24th on combined ACC-SEC list

Women's Tennis -  Romy Koelzer

Women's Tennis - Romy Koelzer

In terms of overall athletic program success at an elite level, as measured by the Learfield Directors' Cup standings, Clemson lags significantly in comparison to its ACC and SEC competition.

Clemson came in 60th nationally during the 2013-14 school year with 355.5 points. Points are awarded based on national finishes in up to 20 sports - 10 men's and 10 women's. Clemson counts 18 sports for the competition.

The ACC led all conferences with five schools among the top 14.

Notre Dame paced ACC member schools with a No. 3 national ranking, followed by Virginia at No. 4 and Duke at No. 9. Florida State finished at No. 12 and North Carolina at No. 14.

The ACC is one of two conferences, along with the Pac-12, to place three schools institutions among the top 10. The SEC had three schools in the top 11.

The ACC placed eight schools among the top 50 of this year’s standings, and all 15 member institutions placed among the top 89. Maryland checked in at No. 32, followed by Virginia Tech at No. 37 and NC State at No. 41.

Syracuse placed 53rd, while Clemson finished 60th, Miami 64th and Boston College 65th. Wake Forest finished at No. 70, followed by Pitt at 85th and Georgia Tech 89th.

Louisville, which joined the ACC on July 1, placed 30th in this year’s standings.

Clemson ranked 10th among the ACC's 15 schools, and 24th out of 29 ACC and SEC schools combined.

Football was Clemson's top points-winner with 72, but was one of only two fall sports teams to earn points, along with men's soccer's 25.

The Tigers scratched out just 44.5 points during the winter sports season - all from indoor track - and then picked up 271.5 points during the spring, led by women's tennis with 64 points and men's tennis with 50.

Seven Clemson sports programs earned no points - men's basketball, women's basketball, rowing, volleyball, women's soccer, men's cross country and women's cross country.

Final 2013-14 Learfield Directors' Cup Top 10

1. Stanford (1482 points)

2. Florida (1216.50)

3. Notre Dame (1128.25)

4. Virginia (1118.50)

5. Penn State (1113)

6. Texas (1093)

7. UCLA (1078.50)

8. USC (1063.75)

9. Duke (1051)

10. Texas A&M (1022)

ACC-SEC Combined Standings

2. Florida (1218.5)

3. Notre Dame (1128.25)

4. Virginia (1118.50)

9. Duke (1051)

10. Texas A&M (1022)

11. Kentucky (1018.25)

12. Florida State (994.25)

14. North Carolina (976)

16. Georgia (936.75)

17. Alabama (926.5)

25. LSU (833.75)

28. Arkansas (720.0)

32. Maryland (676)

34. Auburn (615.25)

35. South Carolina (591.50)

37. Virginia Tech (587.50)

40. Tennessee (541.75)

41. NC State (537.75)

45. Vanderbilt (500.75)

46. Missouri (492.50)

53. Mississippi State (420.0)

53. Syracuse (422.50)

54. Mississippi (402.50)

60. Clemson (355.50)

64. Miami (335.50)

65. Boston College (329)

70. Wake Forest (318.50)

85. Pitt (232.75)

89. Georgia Tech (209.75)

Clemson's Point Totals

Fall Sports

Football (72)

Men's Soccer (25)

Women's Soccer (0)

Volleyball (0)

Men's Cross Country (0)

Women's Cross Country (0)

Winter Sports

Men's Track & Field (29.5)

Women's Track & Field (15)

Men's Basketball (0)

Women's Basketball (0)

Spring Sports

Women's Tennis (64)

Men's Tennis (50)

Men's Golf (40)

Women's Golf (36)

Men's Track & Field (34.5)

Baseball (25)

Women's Track & Field (22)

Rowing (0)

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brownrobert402#293681 writes:

When non revenue sports start drawing 80,000 to watch them play, then people will start taking an interest in them. How many people even know what lacrosse is I wonder. I don't. How many people go out and watch the girls row a boat on Lake Hartwell? Not 80,000. I think it's call crew or something silly. This kind of tracking is stupid and nobody cares if you want to know the bitter truth. I don't think Clemson has a lacrosse team to start with, do they?

SoCalTiger writes:

Zero points for basketball?

gcox5#293705 writes:

HOW ABOUT WOMEN'S SOFTBALL. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SPORT IN THE SOUTH. HOW MANY POINTS DID OTHER ACC AND SEC SCHOOLS RECEIVE FOR THIS SPORT?

BrandonRink writes:

in response to gcox5#293705:

HOW ABOUT WOMEN'S SOFTBALL. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SPORT IN THE SOUTH. HOW MANY POINTS DID OTHER ACC AND SEC SCHOOLS RECEIVE FOR THIS SPORT?

Here's the full standings to check that out - http://thedirectorscup.com/wp-content...

YabbaDaboDooDoo writes:

in response to brownrobert402#293681:

When non revenue sports start drawing 80,000 to watch them play, then people will start taking an interest in them. How many people even know what lacrosse is I wonder. I don't. How many people go out and watch the girls row a boat on Lake Hartwell? Not 80,000. I think it's call crew or something silly. This kind of tracking is stupid and nobody cares if you want to know the bitter truth. I don't think Clemson has a lacrosse team to start with, do they?

People do care. Athletic Directors care for one. That's a measure of how well they're doing their job and the health of the athletic department as a whole. For you that's hard to understand b/c most Clemson fans equate FOOTBALL = Athletic Department. But it's always good to have as many successful programs as possible. Today nearly every NCAA championship is televised so being good at many different sports improves your university's brand. You want people to think CLEMSON = WINNING and not CLEMSON = eh, we only care about football.

I hate lacrosse but you can't deny it's growing popularity in our country. Building a lacrosse program would be wise. Soccer continues to gain popularity in this country evidenced by our record world cup TV ratings. Those are the 2 sports that are on the rise in this country and those are the 2 non-revenue sports schools should start to focus on.

DGriff writes:

Like any other sport, you need to have facilities to support them. Lacrosse club has to play on intramural fields while much of the competition has turf. Lacrosse will be a tough sell with the ACC consistently having half of the field in NCAA playoffs each year. Need a solid coach that is patient enough to build a team. As for rowing, we have great facilities and hundreds come out to watch. We host the ACC's every year due to those facilities and Hartwell. We are the only team to have an ACC title besides Virginia, but poor coaching selections have reduced the team to a very average one, like soccer has been through years of neglect. We gave up on swimming because we weren't willing to build a suitable facility. Softball would be great, but again, need a good coach willing to do the building. The big three, football, basketball and baseball are doing OK, but we desperately need a breakthrough team. Aside from football one time recently, we can't even win and ACC title. Rowing and track are the only others to do that.

There is a need for a well rounded, top notch sports program, not just a football program to be recognized nationally. Is it good enough for us just to have good engineering and let all other majors just be afterthoughts? Having a broad competitive sports representation strengthens the University and other sports.

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