Clemson's defense takes step back against N.C. State

Brent Venables

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Brent Venables

Defense Breakdown: Venables 'proud' of players

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Brent Venables admitted he saw some “bad football” Saturday afternoon. Clemson’s defense regressed against N.C. State and quarterback Mike Glennon, allowing 48 points and 597 yards of total offense. Glennon threw for 493 yards and five touchdowns, keeping Memorial Stadium on edge and keeping Venables more than engaged for three-plus quarters.

Venables discussed the game with reporters afterward, breaking down his overall thoughts on Clemson 62, N.C. State 48.

Overall thoughts: “I watched what I watched. I saw some bad football. We gave up some big plays, two busted coverages that led to touchdowns to them. I was very disappointed in them. There was so much good in that game, again, I’m a bottom-line guy. We’re not going to get in the habit of shootouts, of outscoring people, hoping our offense gets a first down. That’s unacceptable. I thought our guys showed great toughness, played with great effort tonight. Made some huge stops, made a couple of big turnovers. A number of them in good position. Two huge fourth-down stops. A blocked field goal, which was like a turnover. Turnovers we did cause turned into points.

“We had four sacks, Vic Beasley had three of them, got some pressure and guys got to the quarterback. It was hard to get in a rhythm, particularly when you’re causing a fumble and when you’re giving up big plays. We actually felt in control. We put ourselves in tough positions, gave up almost 300 yards on kick returns and that’s a bunch of defensive guys on there. We’ve got to play better, have to play a lot better this week. But we made a bunch of plays, we gave ourselves a chance. Guys showed great toughness. There were periods where we dominated that game and got into a groove, and some big plays put our backs against the wall. Glennon is a terrific quarterback but we contributed some of those things.”

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clemsongent writes:

Who won the game Greg? Have you ever "suited up" for a college game? Did you ever think we were playing against one of the best offenses, AND individual players, in the country? It must be nice to sit at a keyboard and be an after the fact quarterback. 'Ever thought about applying for a position as a coach? Just asking what a LOT of Clemson fans are thinking.

ggordon writes:

A lot of fans are also thinking that we have opportunity to improve. DBs need to play better, and safeties need to cover the top.

michtiger writes:

in response to clemsongent:

Who won the game Greg? Have you ever "suited up" for a college game? Did you ever think we were playing against one of the best offenses, AND individual players, in the country? It must be nice to sit at a keyboard and be an after the fact quarterback. 'Ever thought about applying for a position as a coach? Just asking what a LOT of Clemson fans are thinking.

He is writing what he saw, what the coach saw and what the fans saw. I have caught flack for three weeks about this but I do not think we saw a regression on D, but the fact we were over reading the pace of improvement over the previous few weeks. WF had most of OL out when we played them, Duke is a team getting more hype than deserved and MD was a team with most players out and a 5th string QB. The DL has improved, the LB's or trying but the fact is DB' look like opening day. I think Special teams can fix that right side problem on kick offs and the O is as good as any in the country but after 11 games DB are still pointing fingers at each other as receivers go by. Not sure when someone points out a need for improvement we get the "you are not a fan"or even more obtuse "have you ever dressed out for a college game", do some think only their opinions count. this is a great team with great potential but some obvious weak spots. Except for DB' coaches get a lot of praise. any thoughts on why the punting average has been falling.?

GregWallace (staff) writes:

in response to clemsongent:

Who won the game Greg? Have you ever "suited up" for a college game? Did you ever think we were playing against one of the best offenses, AND individual players, in the country? It must be nice to sit at a keyboard and be an after the fact quarterback. 'Ever thought about applying for a position as a coach? Just asking what a LOT of Clemson fans are thinking.

It's the same coordinator roundup format that I've posted after every game for the last 2 seasons. Quotes verbatim and stats. Simple as that.

justcurious writes:

our drfense has been slack the last 2-3 years, this year in particularlly-sp=I made comment prior to thengame on one of these blogs, that the defense needs to step it up, there where 2 pass plays the receivers was wide open, and NC state is no push over team, come defense lets get together, lok at last years bowl game, think about, The Gamecocks are coming to nail our hides to the wall, DO NOT LET THEM, STEP IT NOW. Take some pressure off of the offense, AND PEASE TAKE SOME PRESSURE OFF OF SOME OF US OLDER FANS, WE DO NOT NEED additional pressure, its getting hard to handle. help us older folks. play the way you are capable of playing, Offenseline, protect Boyd at all coast. take a flag protect him.

justcurious writes:

keep on reporting the way you have Greg. It's outstanding. report what you see, not what we see, you are up close and personnal, we are not.

waran writes:

Many Clemson fans think a pat on the back is all what is needed for the Team to play well. The players who read the comments believe it.

Greg is reporting what he saw and heard. I agree with Coach Venables, we all saw some bad football. I agree with MitchTiger, I did not see much improvement in our D, the same inconsistent performance. If this continues, we will have a terrible night next Saturday. The players should listen to their Coach and not to some fans who get carried away.

I am also concerned about the inconsistencies of the QB, although I like Tajh a lot. I think that is the reason he is not discussed as a possible Hesiman. Tajh has lots of potential and if he comes back next year, a national Championship, Hesiman and all the glory may be a possibility. This year? I hope he does well the next game. Good luck.

t1gers writes:

our defensive recruits come next year, we can see what venables does with some raw talent. for now, we have to make due and that's all we can do. just train people for next year on defense. our d-line doesn't give any pressure (with the exception of a few plays) which in turn hurts our already-struggling secondary and our linebackers have their eyes in the backfield the whole game. just need to keep up with fundamentals to help solidify next year's defense! GO TIGERS!!!

TigerNE writes:

in response to clemsongent:

Who won the game Greg? Have you ever "suited up" for a college game? Did you ever think we were playing against one of the best offenses, AND individual players, in the country? It must be nice to sit at a keyboard and be an after the fact quarterback. 'Ever thought about applying for a position as a coach? Just asking what a LOT of Clemson fans are thinking.

I think you are overselling NC State more than just a little bit. They are talented, and they beat FSU. But the also lost to Miami and BADLY to UVA. The good team showed up yesterday, for sure. But our bad D showed up, too.

33dtb writes:

Collegiate defenses across the nation are having a tough time.
College and even pro football is in an offensive cycle and the public wants scoring and instant gratification rather than "real" football, so the rules favor the offense.
Brent Venables inherited the players he has and he has brought them along.
The next couple years will show the doubters what an OC we have.

33dtb writes:

At least they didn't "tap out".

DMD writes:

Maybe they should have suited up Ray Lewis since he was there. I bet he gave an Awesome Talk ( I have heard him before ). But yes Greg, the Defensive Backs are not as a whole very good. We all hope they show this Saturday ! Go Tigers !!!

tw30241 writes:

in response to ggordon:

A lot of fans are also thinking that we have opportunity to improve. DBs need to play better, and safeties need to cover the top.

Agreed, Hall and Meeks need to quit biting and stay in position, they are killing the DBs who need over the top help.

tw30241 writes:

This Saturday, the Safeties need to stay over the top and at least 1 LB needs to roam the middle from side to side. South Carolina likes to use their TEs in the middle a lot and they usually somehow manage to get the middle of the field open with usually their Ellington in the flat with Sanders in slants where they can get out in space. DBs and LBs need to be aware of this at all times, and keep 1 LB as a spy on Shaw.

YabbaDaboDooDoo writes:

Climpsun fans should be worried after this game. Glennon may be an NFL QB but he didn't have any other NFL talent around him. Top-15 teams don't give up 48 points to NC State... period. This defense is not very good at all. Points allowed had gone down in previous games but only b/c the schedule was as awful as the ACC could possibly allow (@WF, @Duke, MD, and an unusually BAD VT).

South Carolina game will most likely be followed by another game against an SEC team either in Atlanta or in New Orleans if the Sugar Bowl chooses to make that mistake. The video game offensive stats won't be there against SEC defenses. Climpsun will actually have to stop somebody or they'll get "Mountaineered".

TrevorT writes:

in response to YabbaDaboDooDoo:

Climpsun fans should be worried after this game. Glennon may be an NFL QB but he didn't have any other NFL talent around him. Top-15 teams don't give up 48 points to NC State... period. This defense is not very good at all. Points allowed had gone down in previous games but only b/c the schedule was as awful as the ACC could possibly allow (@WF, @Duke, MD, and an unusually BAD VT).

South Carolina game will most likely be followed by another game against an SEC team either in Atlanta or in New Orleans if the Sugar Bowl chooses to make that mistake. The video game offensive stats won't be there against SEC defenses. Climpsun will actually have to stop somebody or they'll get "Mountaineered".

And should top 15 teams be tied with Wofford in the 4th quarter? But I'm sure you have a list of excuses for that. Always fun laughing at you Mr. DooDoo. Enjoy the pre-game on Saturday!

tigerdh writes:

in response to YabbaDaboDooDoo:

Climpsun fans should be worried after this game. Glennon may be an NFL QB but he didn't have any other NFL talent around him. Top-15 teams don't give up 48 points to NC State... period. This defense is not very good at all. Points allowed had gone down in previous games but only b/c the schedule was as awful as the ACC could possibly allow (@WF, @Duke, MD, and an unusually BAD VT).

South Carolina game will most likely be followed by another game against an SEC team either in Atlanta or in New Orleans if the Sugar Bowl chooses to make that mistake. The video game offensive stats won't be there against SEC defenses. Climpsun will actually have to stop somebody or they'll get "Mountaineered".

I agree that we have to play better defense but I think we can and will against the chickens. I think the offense will score points on anybody, might not be 62. Go tigers!!

TUN writes:

in response to YabbaDaboDooDoo:

Climpsun fans should be worried after this game. Glennon may be an NFL QB but he didn't have any other NFL talent around him. Top-15 teams don't give up 48 points to NC State... period. This defense is not very good at all. Points allowed had gone down in previous games but only b/c the schedule was as awful as the ACC could possibly allow (@WF, @Duke, MD, and an unusually BAD VT).

South Carolina game will most likely be followed by another game against an SEC team either in Atlanta or in New Orleans if the Sugar Bowl chooses to make that mistake. The video game offensive stats won't be there against SEC defenses. Climpsun will actually have to stop somebody or they'll get "Mountaineered".

The Mountaineers have dropped their last 5 games and have been humiliated nationally. They are a disgrace. To be "Mountaineered" means now to get spanked over and over and over again by both unranked and ranked teams. The only team they could beat is South Carolina!!!!!!!!!!!

TUN writes:

in response to YabbaDaboDooDoo:

Climpsun fans should be worried after this game. Glennon may be an NFL QB but he didn't have any other NFL talent around him. Top-15 teams don't give up 48 points to NC State... period. This defense is not very good at all. Points allowed had gone down in previous games but only b/c the schedule was as awful as the ACC could possibly allow (@WF, @Duke, MD, and an unusually BAD VT).

South Carolina game will most likely be followed by another game against an SEC team either in Atlanta or in New Orleans if the Sugar Bowl chooses to make that mistake. The video game offensive stats won't be there against SEC defenses. Climpsun will actually have to stop somebody or they'll get "Mountaineered".

Chickin U gave up 44 points to Florida! What's good for the goose or should I say chickin is good for the gander! Do top-15 teams lose two weeks in a row to ranked opponents? Last year Clemson defeated Auburn, FSU, and VT in successive weeks--all three ranked opponents at the time. Perhaps chickin U should take a note from our playbook and not lose 2 out 3 to ranked opponents. Oh and remember, little ole Clemson last year did what no MIGHTY SEC team could do in 2010--namely beat Auburn. Little ole Clemson brought Auburn's 17 game win streak to an end! When was the last time South Carolina ended a win streak like that? Clemson had done that twice in their history once against Georgia in 1981 and again against GT in 1991.

TUN writes:

Yabba Troll,
You must not have much going on in your life if you have to troll Clemson message boards looking for people to agitate. Sad, sad, I feel sorry for you, your coach--the OLE Ball SACK, and that sorry excuse for a school we affectionally call Chickin U! Our august University is named after that distinguished statesman and benefactor Thomas Green Clemson and your pathetic attempt to needle southerners and South Carolinians is provincial and small-minded but what else should I expect from someone from Chickin U?

kellytown writes:

in response to YabbaDaboDooDoo:

Climpsun fans should be worried after this game. Glennon may be an NFL QB but he didn't have any other NFL talent around him. Top-15 teams don't give up 48 points to NC State... period. This defense is not very good at all. Points allowed had gone down in previous games but only b/c the schedule was as awful as the ACC could possibly allow (@WF, @Duke, MD, and an unusually BAD VT).

South Carolina game will most likely be followed by another game against an SEC team either in Atlanta or in New Orleans if the Sugar Bowl chooses to make that mistake. The video game offensive stats won't be there against SEC defenses. Climpsun will actually have to stop somebody or they'll get "Mountaineered".

Bring on the SEC we like taking them down to. Like I have said many times Chicken U is just riding the coat tails of real SEC teams its not Chicken U that is the SEC they just needed some more door mats to go with kentucky and vanderbilt and a few others. we don't care who we play or where bring them own we are not like Chicken U you are wanting to take the Razorbacks off your schedule and put in A&M how is that going to work out for you how dumb is that !!! A&M will beat you like a drum how about this why don;t you take Wofford off your schedule because they gave you all you wanted at Home come on Chicken U. Take every team off your schedule and play with yourselves after all you could possibly go undefeted..

YabbaDaboDooDoo writes:

in response to TUN:

Yabba Troll,
You must not have much going on in your life if you have to troll Clemson message boards looking for people to agitate. Sad, sad, I feel sorry for you, your coach--the OLE Ball SACK, and that sorry excuse for a school we affectionally call Chickin U! Our august University is named after that distinguished statesman and benefactor Thomas Green Clemson and your pathetic attempt to needle southerners and South Carolinians is provincial and small-minded but what else should I expect from someone from Chickin U?

All I can do is laugh this morning.

YabbaDaboDooDoo writes:

in response to TUN:

The Mountaineers have dropped their last 5 games and have been humiliated nationally. They are a disgrace. To be "Mountaineered" means now to get spanked over and over and over again by both unranked and ranked teams. The only team they could beat is South Carolina!!!!!!!!!!!

Which makes it all the more embarassing that they put 70 on you and made your players beg for mercy.

Let's sing your little spelling song again... S-E-V-E-N-T-............Y!!!!!!!!!!

YabbaDaboDooDoo writes:

in response to kellytown:

Bring on the SEC we like taking them down to. Like I have said many times Chicken U is just riding the coat tails of real SEC teams its not Chicken U that is the SEC they just needed some more door mats to go with kentucky and vanderbilt and a few others. we don't care who we play or where bring them own we are not like Chicken U you are wanting to take the Razorbacks off your schedule and put in A&M how is that going to work out for you how dumb is that !!! A&M will beat you like a drum how about this why don;t you take Wofford off your schedule because they gave you all you wanted at Home come on Chicken U. Take every team off your schedule and play with yourselves after all you could possibly go undefeted..

17 points... Isn't that your lowest output of the season? How'd your defense do against South Carolina's backup running backs and backup QB? 27 points was it?

You need a new coach if you're going to beat the big boys. Anyone can beat Wake Forest and the 7 dwarfs with Clemson's facilities.

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